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Netroots, "Progressives," and Matthew Kerbel

Mon, 11/02/2009 - 4:20am — khin

This is a transcript of the chat I had with Matthew Kerbel about his new book celebrating the "netroots," including groups like Daily Kos and Open Left which he considers to be part of "the Left." In this chat I tried to pin him down more specifically about what he meant by "the Left" and "progressives." First I'll post the Firedoglake summary so you can get more of an idea of what his book is about, and then the chat.

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13:36:52 lambert Agree on Ron Paul and the Fed.
13:23:52 brucedixon interesting.... Glen tells me that neither the fake "jobs summit" nor the familiar wailing of conyers about his being disappointed with the prez are the big story. the most important thing happening in DC right now is the Ron Paul bill which wd require the Fed to be audited.
13:57:03 brucedixon I think my colleague Glen Ford is writing on it this week in BAR so I will just co-sign whatever he says.
22:03:36 Valley Girl I'd sure like Bruce Dixon's take on the Conyers comments. Just emailed him.
21:03:43 lambert Thanks, Jeff.
18:16:03 Jeff W lambert, I wrote to NOW about that Elizabeth Warren video not playing and got a response of sorts back, which I sent to you as a private PM. Just FYI.
02:28:28 hipparchia the first thing they told us my volunteer training: humans are natural born rescuers.
00:18:34 lambert One more study... [url]
23:57:37 lambert Joe Bageant is god. [url]
01:00:54 lambert The actuary was a whistleblower under Bush, too. [url]
00:47:48 hipparchia that's ok, jason stands ready to help smear the actuary quoted in that wapo article [url]
23:16:16 lambert Elders under the bus on Medicare, naturally. [url]
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20:10:18 lambert Capitalism in a world where we will throw as many taxpayers under the bus as necessary....
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02:24:14 Jeff W Elizabeth Warren on the economy on PBS's NOW: you can watch it online here: [url] "If [Congress] gets it wrong, the country we knew is gone."
17:52:53 Davidson So, of course they're not going to show the truth about boxing her in from the beginning.
17:51:57 Davidson Yeah, that was just a comment in general, like, "Not even the RBC decision warranted scrutiny."
15:38:02 lambert That's not the RBC meeting, though. That's the smoking gun, beyond "Smart politics" (Wolfson).
14:17:16 Davidson Notice how everyone still avoids exposing the RBC decision

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