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Yes, he really wrote that China has a superior economic model.
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Thing is, he's right
China sent their best and brightest economists here to the United States to study our history to find out how we went from being a nation of agrarian importers who made nothing, to being the manufacturing center of the world. They then took that information back to China with them and implemented that same plan there -- the same plan that was abandoned starting with the Reagan administration here in America. To whit: 1) High tariffs and other barriers to import (in 1929 imports were roughly 5% of U.S. GDP, exports were roughly the same), 2) policies that emphasize building infrastructure (the New Deal, the Interstate Highway System, the Space Program, the REA, etc.), 3) policies that provide government subsidies and protections for critical industries (the protections of the steel industry that Reagan dismantled, protections for U.S. aircraft makers, etc.). And it *worked*. The U.S. went from a few million agriculturalists to 120 million industrialists within the course of a hundred years. And it was all because of massive government intervention in the economy -- intervention which the Libertarians conveniently write out of history, I might add.
Now, China being China, and run by a gerontocratic dictatorship, they also added a few very nasty and unpleasant things of their own to the mix -- the harsh working conditions, the outlawing of unions, and so forth. But the general skeleton of the way their economy is organized is almost exactly the same as the general skeleton of how the U.S. economy was organized during this country's period of greatest growth -- a skeleton which, I might add, has been completely dismantled over the past thirty years, especially over the past ten years, with predictable results.
Did you actually read the article?
The main points are entirely valid and I'm not sure what objection you have to Stern making those points. In a nutshell:
What part of that do you find wanting?
the with a streamlined
the with a streamlined government as a partner with the private sector [at the end of the article] part is a bit alarming though. sounds a bit too much like the much-vaunted public-private partnerships we've been hearing so much about, and things like infrastructure banks.
also, in spite of all the good stuff that andy spouts, "streamlined govt" is usually codespeak for smaller govt, less taxes, fewer regulations.
“streamlined government” is a small part
of what Andy Stern had to say. badtux and Roman Berry are right concerning what Stern has to say about China on the larger issues—its ability to plan and its “people-oriented development.” As just one measure, China’s lifted over half a billion people out of poverty in the past 30 years. (Meanwhile, poverty in the US has reached a 30-year high.) So, I also am not sure what the critique contained in this post is about. (I am absolutely no fan of Andy Stern but I can’t argue with his points about China.)
Every apathetic citizen is a silent enlistee in the cause of inverted totalitarianism.—Sheldon Wolin
neoliberals say all the right words
but have policy prescriptions that range from ho-hum to horrible.
just for one example: where a new deal 2.0 liberal would say "we need a wpa/ccc 2.0 and have the federal govt directly hire workers and out them to work building roads, cabins, schools, trails, etc" a neoliberal would say"we need to set up an infrastructure bank and use it to pay private contractors to hire people to build roads, schools, etc."
phrases like "streamlined government" and "partner with the private sector" are usually indications that the speaker is a neoliberal. back in the day, these people would perhaps have been rockefeller republicans, or maybe eisenhower republicans.
Actually I read Stern's
Actually I read Stern's piece. It reads like he was plagiarizing Thom Friedman. It is so important when reading an article by a neoliberal to realize that any of us will agree with bits and pieces of it. But it is poison to accept the whole proposition. So yes, job creation is super important as is having a national industrial policy. But the rest of Stern's spiel is blather.
First, let us remember who Andy Stern is. He was a member of the first Simpson-Bowles Cat Food Commission and favored cutting Medicare and Social Security. And of course he has been a big supporter of the Bush-esque Obama. These should be enormous red flags to take anything he has to say with extreme skepticism.
And he goes off the rails almost at once invoking free markets. There has never been such a creature. Nevertheless, his use of them is illustrative because it shows just how bad and incomplete his analysis is. Both China and the US are kleptocracies. Stern focuses on China's pluses and conveniently overlooks its negatives. As in this country, there is massive wealth inequality in China. Stern says how many Chinese have entered the middle class but what he doesn't say is that China's domestic consumption rate continues to decline. He doesn't talk about China's serial bubbles in real estate, commodities, and capacity over building. He doesn't talk about its pollution, abuse of labor, and poor quality control. He doesn't talk about how most Chinese economic statistics are simply lies. So what does it mean that he extols Chinese 5 year plans? If the current data can't be trusted, how can the 5 year material? Indeed we should all be inoculated against this kind of propagandistic drivel from our own experience with multi-year economic projections in this country. We have much better data collection and the projections based on them are still garbage.
Stern is basically selling the line that we must out-China China. That we must meet their mercantilist trade policy with a better mercantilist plan of our own. Explicit in this is his embrace of globalization. Remember he calls this the Global Revolution. Well that's what globalization is.
But this approach of Stern misunderstands (deliberately) everything. He wants a public-private partnership. Early in the 20th century, this state corporatism was called fascism. More than this, Stern simply ignores that government and corporations have been cooperating massively for the last 35 years, and far from producing the nirvana he proclaims this coordination has resulted in the gutting of the middle class and the economic devastation and political corruption we see all around us.
Like a Friedman piece, Stern's makes a superficial kind of sense until you start thinking about it, and then it all falls apart. China has been able to pursue its mercantilist approach up to now because it has us has a huge consumer market. But if we seek to outcompete China on the world stage, who are we going to sell to? Who are going to be our big fat consumer market? If it is ultimately ourselves, then this goes directly against the globalization Stern is promoting. You see this is the problem with the whole beggar thy neighbor mercantilist line. It only works if one or a few countries practise it. If everyone does, it can't possibly work. Yet this is China's policy, and it is the one the Europeans are pushing (however crazily), and now we are supposed to embrace it too? Where are all of the necessary consumers going to come from?
And as long as we are on this subject, Stern never says how Team America is actually going to increase either wages or jobs. It is just supposed to happen, sort of like trickle down economics, as an effect of the policy. But much as with trickle down and, as I said above, we have had 35 years experience with public-private partnering and we have seen what it has done to both jobs and wages.
Long story short, if you don't trust Friedman, don't trust Stern because either way it is the same neoliberal crap.
Hugh
It's all a matter of trust
There are so many opinion pieces out there, that it helps to know who you trust in order to decide what to read. Because there is so much time in the day. I trust Hugh. I do not trust Stern.
Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.
Groucho Marx
Individualism
What bounced around in my mind as I read the article, Hugh, was the huge difference in culture between China and the United States. Chinese culture, from what I understand, emphasizes the community to a much greater extent that does the United States. I have no expertise in Chinese affairs at all, but I have to conclude that a long history of Confucianism, which emphasizes family if I'm not mistaken, has to play a role in the success of their model. Here in the United States, on the other hand, we worship at the altar of individualism and competition. So I do not see how Stern can draw any useful parallels between the two countries. Thank you for your critical analysis of the article. I wish I knew the answer to our problems, but I don't think a top-down solution is in the cards. I think it is going to take a wide-spread realization, starting from the bottom, that this hyper-individualistic, "free-market" crap needs to be toned down a good deal. But in an age of increasing resource competition, I don't know if that is going to happen. We may well see a return to a Dickensian free-for-all. I hope not.
The important thing is to never stop questioning. - Albert Einstein